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Senator Wants Homosexual History in School Textbooks
Published: May 3, 2006

SACRAMENTO — State Sen. Sheila Kuehl says a key aspect of history is missing from school textbooks - the contributions that homosexuals have made to California and the nation.

Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, has introduced a bill that would fill that void by requiring textbooks and other social science materials to discuss contributions that gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people have made to the state and nation’s economy, politics and society.

The bill also would prohibit textbooks from criticizing people because of their sexual orientation. Current law sets that standard for discussions of race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry, gender and disabilities.

It’s scheduled to be considered Wednesday by the Senate Education Committee.

Assemblyman Dennis Mountjoy, R-Monrovia, has a rival bill that would ban schools from promoting socialism, humanism or homosexuality. It also is up Wednesday, in the Assembly Education Committee.

Discussions of gays and lesbians are almost nonexistent in current textbooks, supporters of Kuehl’s legislation say.

That leads “to the conclusion that they’re worthless, that they never contributed anything, when the truth is there are quite a few people who were gay and did contribute,” Kuehl said. “I think it helps both straight and gay students appreciate that talent is really scattered through our diverse population.”

Benjamin Lopez, a lobbyist for the Traditional Values Coalition, an Anaheim-based group that views homosexuality as an abomination, doesn’t dispute the fact that gays have been discriminated against and have made contributions to American society.

But he contends Kuehl’s bill amounts to “social engineering and social indoctrination.”

“You’re talking about elevating a practice, a lifestyle, and putting it on par with the struggles of blacks, women and (other) minorities,” he said. “As a minority myself, that’s tremendously offensive.”

Mountjoy said schools should be focusing on improving reading, writing and math scores, not doing “diversity training.”

But Kuehl said that if schools are “silent about the diversity of talented people who were important in California, the impression is that only white, straight men did anything important. That leaves virtually everyone else in school believing their talents may not be sufficient.”

The bill would require schools to implement its requirements as they normally replace textbooks and other instructional materials. 

Reader's Comments
"PeeWee, sorry to say, the passage of this bill will only deepen the divide that separates you from what you so desperately want, (mainstream). Social acceptance is not achieved through a "force-fed" methodology. have you ever heard the phrase" you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink"? Thank GOD for privite schools that wont have to teach this perverse curriculum."
-> Posted by just a parent / Jun 28, 2006
"Peewee, you may have shotgun respect, but individual Homosexuals still have to prove themselves. The government can make us bow our head, but not our spirit. You have won a bucket of spit - enjoy."
-> Posted by Walter E. Wallis / Jun 28, 2006
"We used to sing " We will overcome", now we are singing, we win, we win again. It feels good to finally be part of the mainstream. You rednecks know what they are saying these days. Its ok to be gay. I think I will start a day care center or something. So many possibilities are now open for us. Yea we win again.b"
-> Posted by PeeWee / Jun 28, 2006
"As a 24 year old Black nurse, I am befuddled by the confusion of a liberal nation without limits. There are no boundaries I mean if two men can marry because it's their right, then who's to say what is right or wrong when beauty is considered as being in the eye of the beholder. The ten commandments were created for a reason and if we don't stand for something as a people we WILL fall for anything. This bill is as good as passed, because we are a so-so nation."
-> Posted by sherry / Jun 19, 2006
"Does the rights of the parents of these young minds even matter anymore? this is a topic best delivered at home by the parent. With the moral decline of the liberal run state over the past 40 years, Sen kuehl knows whats best for my child? God isnt allowed in schools in any form but the edification of homosexuality is? Where is our State going?"
-> Posted by Just a parent / Jun 14, 2006
"Gays cannot breed with each other so they seem to recruit. They prey on young insecure adolescences and find these people are easilly victimized as their hormones usually betray them. Walk up and down market street in SF some time. When I was a child they were (fruiters) were everywhere and they were agressive and relentless. Nowadays of course, they are just wonderful caring folks who just want to give young people the support that budding fags need. bull."
-> Posted by rfkk, / Jun 14, 2006
"pc101: Strange I usually see people come forward who were molested by Priests, parents, relatives when they were young, and aren't gay now. I guess with your theory girls that were raped, strap on a dild*and rape their daughters? Your friends were probably in Prison and refer to their Pen pals, you're next on their list."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / Jun 03, 2006
"An aquaintance, who is gay, once told me that he and his "pals" loved nothing more than bring young straight boys/men into the gay lifestyle and that he and most of his pals had been brought in by molestation. They want you to think they were all born that way but if they were honest they would admit most gay men are deviates and or vistims of child molestation."
-> Posted by PC101 / Jun 02, 2006
"What is the big problem. Homolsexuality has been around since the begining of humanity. So lets just enjoy ourselves while we can. We will be dead for a long time."
-> Posted by PeeWee / May 27, 2006
"It is possible to teach tolerance without teaching the act to be tolerated."
-> Posted by Walter E. Wallis / May 25, 2006
"Stephany, you are a perfect example of why our schools and state government are failing us. Next time you feel the need to respond to a column, have your English teacher or “spell check” check your comments."
-> Posted by Dave / May 25, 2006
"RIGHT ON TEACH THE KIDS [me] ABOUT HOW WE NEED TO TOLERATE PEOPLE OF TOHER ORIANTATION AND HOW TO LIVE AND LOVE.....DOWN WITH THE HATE...DOWN WITH THE ANIT HOMO ACTS....HOMOS ARE PEOPLE TO....TEACHE ME EVERYTHIGN ABOUT THEM...cause I know that we need to accept people and let others lvie in the world as equals..ans that inculdes learning about them...we l;earned about Rosa Parks, and about The 14th Amendement why not about gays..."
-> Posted by Stephany / May 24, 2006
"Homosexuality is a field expedient, an escape from responsibility and an avenue to a multitude of anonymous partners.
I just wish they would stop trying to drag us into their bedrooms. If we do teach homosexuality I will demand we teach it all."
-> Posted by Walter E. Wallis / May 21, 2006
"Another example of the Democratic party's attempt to control your children and it won't stop unless there is a change in Sacto."
-> Posted by Everett / May 20, 2006
"Comon SacUnion, lets get some new topics. Seems like their are a lot of things happening that we could sink our teeth into.

Something new, man..."
-> Posted by gedf / May 19, 2006
"The little children do not need to know about your sexual perversion.So keep your filthy hands off of them!"
-> Posted by dollygirl / May 17, 2006
"little children do not need to know about your disgusting acts of sexual perversion so keep your filthy hands off our precious little ones!"
-> Posted by dolly / May 17, 2006
"Pastor, I am sure that you do not know sh!!!! from shinola about what God loves or doesn't. You religious jerks are part of the problem, you are not the solution.

We have progressed past your dogmatic, robotic, petty minds.

If your god wrote the script, why did he create the troublemaker.

Dogmatic religion is just a short term mind focus to keep weak minded people out of trouble until they progress on the path to an impersonal life force."
-> Posted by The Dark One / May 12, 2006
"God loves us, His creation, but he hates our sin and homosexuality is sin, see Leviticus 20:13 and Romans 1:26&27. Nothing about this lifestyle needs to be taught in any school at any time. And no this is not homophobic, this is truth."
-> Posted by Pastor David / May 12, 2006
"Biblical prophecy is history written in advance. The change in the make-up of our times will only get worse. Our morality as a country is spiraling downward at an accelerated rate. There is a reason why the US is not mentioned ANYWHERE in the Bible. We either won't be here, or will lose allour political power. This initiative is just a small part of our demise as a country and a people."
-> Posted by Sara / May 12, 2006
"If I were to discover a cure for cancer, why the significance of this accomplishment change by who I was having sex with? Why should ANYONE care? Face it: Gays just want more power and influence, and cant get it any other way than by forcing it on us VIA our kids. It's shameful."
-> Posted by Sara / May 12, 2006
"Jesse: This is a big shock to you that Republicans would not vote to pass this Homosexual Agenda?? - because that's all it is, BTW. The gay community is less concerned about our children's TRUE education than they are about pushing their agenda on the world."
-> Posted by Mel / May 12, 2006
"GAT: Kuehl’s bill for homosexual indoctrination of schoolchildren passed the Senate yesterday by a vote of 22-15, and ironically NO Republican voted for it. Nice to know where our Lawmakers concerns are focused at."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 12, 2006
"Kuehl’s bill for homosexual indoctrination of schoolchildren is evil. Homosexual revolution is more dangerous than Islamic terrorism because it threatens children, families and sanity. Unlike gender, race or physical disability (legitimate for anti-discrimination policy) homosexuality has not one biological or physiological characteristic. Homosexuality is entirely a mental and behavioral condition. Homosexuality must be returned to the mental health system, from which it escaped in the 1970s."
-> Posted by GAT / May 11, 2006
"(cont) That is what he’s remembered for, his accomplishment, not his sexual orientation!"
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 09, 2006
"Steve: You're right. The problem with historic facts, gay or not gay, is that you can read 3 different history books, and get 3 different accounts. For all we know Columbus could have been gay, or actually discovered America. The point is that History is based on fact, not supposition. So saying someone was gay after the fact has no historical verity to base it on. And even if Columbus was gay, that had nothing to do with his historic achievement of discovering America."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 09, 2006
"Is it Marth or Meth? You really have your blinders on, don’t you. The UNCARING immigrants do have Sex here, and DO procreate (another validation for the UNCARING immigrants to stay, right Marth. Next will be having ILLEGITIMATE children with an American, so they have a Legal right to be here for child visitation. Not child support of course). Apparently God isn’t the only one who judge’s Marth. Be sure to recite the Lord’s prayer while having dinner with a GAY/GOP/UNCARING immigrant."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 09, 2006
"Folks, we're talking about textbooks and gays, not the GOP. How the hell they get into this discussion?"
-> Posted by steve / May 09, 2006
"(cont) and is now facing runoff election, and this AFTER Cunningham was convicted. So Jeff in answer to your question who Jeff Gannon was SCREWING in the White House, that would be DEMO'S! And apparently Jeff, DEMO’s don’t like people who kiss and tell."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 09, 2006
"Jeff Gannon: Who was he sleeping with, apparently Demo's as he seems to be exposing them on his Web Site. He EXPOSES the big nothing about Valeria Plume, Has proof that Son of Ted, Pat WAS drinking in a Bar the night of the accident, more Kerry lies, oh and I kept wondering where you got your idiotic CULTURE OF CORRUPTION phrase, that you repeat like a mindless idiot, and there's a story there about Francine Busby who couldn't get a majority vote against 4 GOP Candidates in San Diego,"
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 09, 2006
"If sex is all about procreation then let all the Undocumented immigrants stay, and have them procreate in the USA? GOP is nothing more than a bunch of Racist, Bigoted, Hatemongers. I would rather have coffee/dinner with a gay person than with anyone who is a GOP supporters. God is the only one who can judge."
-> Posted by marthadesmtih / May 08, 2006
"You Bush Deadenders are full of crap. Jeff Gannon is/was a Gay Male Whhoree who visited the white house over 120 times while pretending to be a white house reporter. Who was Jeff Gannon having sex with in the while house with? Rove, Libby ect...."
-> Posted by Jeff Gannon / May 08, 2006
"Sara: Yes, the "good uncle" liked to experiment on twins, and dwarfs at Auschwitz. Minority is a good word, as few survived."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 08, 2006
"Leo: Jews were marked with a yellow star, gays with a pink triangle. No big surprise that the "perfect race" wouldn't want inferior people. Gays were considered degenerates and shot on sight, or thrown into Concentration camps. Nazi's felt the same about miscegenation (mixture of race, especially white with another race), prostitutes, and the mentally ill who were treated the same way, killed or encamped."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 08, 2006
"Leo: It is taught that gays were also singled out in the Holocaust. I just finished teaching a unit on the Holocaust, and that info was there, along with many other subgroups which aren't the ones we normally associate with the death camps, and Hitler's "Final Solution". Mengele also specifically "experimented on twins"... maybe they should be a designated minority now."
-> Posted by Sara / May 08, 2006
"Besides being an absolute idiot, this topic is wasted energy. However, since the twit who's sponsored it, wishes it to be so?
Here's a fast history lesson for you:

Gays in the military AND in leadership positions. Circa, 1936 or 1938. Adolf Hitler has his SA commander executed, for being Gay. SS troops in the camps, marked Gay people with a pink star, and were summarily executed along with anyone else, whom the Nazi regime felt were useless.
Will THAT be taught too??"
-> Posted by Leo of Sacramento / May 08, 2006
"As for minority status: Why are we still looking at opportunities to separate ourselves from each other? The civil rights movement was for EQUALITY. Today, all we want to do is divide; everyone wants to be in a minority so they can get special notice or privileges. What happened to 'All men created equal with enaliable rights'? People should celebrate their heritage; I don't see, however, why we can't just treat each other equally."
-> Posted by Sara / May 07, 2006
"Bottom line: How does what someone does in their private sexual life have to do with ANYONE or ANYTHING else in the world? Sex is sex; don't give it any more credit than what it is. If a man (or woman) makes a great achievement, they should be recognized for it. If someone creates a cure for cancer, what does their sexuality have to do with it? Absolutely nothing. This is ALL about pushing the GAY agenda, and nothing to do with preservering history."
-> Posted by Mel / May 07, 2006
"You have an ego problem Jesse, you have to have the last word everytime, doncha?

You check out both genders and get back to me and tell me that the heteros are as gross as the fruteros. Sure there are some gross heteros but generally they are not so over the top as the homos."
-> Posted by wlkm / May 06, 2006
"refmmfm: I take it you didn't check out the CASUAL ENCOUNTERS area? That's where the opposite sex one night stand listings are."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 06, 2006
"Here is an example of an advertisement on Craigslist, man seeking man.

Allow me the privilege of sucking you off. If your horny and need me to service you - I will and swallow. I really need to suck a few thus weekend. I can't help myself. I am attracted to the #### and enjoy licking and sucking it. No recprocity wanted or needed. You are the master and I the slave, provider. Race is not important.

This should be perserved for the historical perspective."
-> Posted by refmmfm / May 06, 2006
"(cont)(cont) looking in a history book thinking were they Gay or not Gay. I can only hope that Kennedy, Clinton, Rosevelt, etc. aren’t forever remembered for their womanizing, but rather for the things they did in Office that changed the Country."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 06, 2006
"(cont) people that same day? And yes, Hookers have sex with same sex also. There are a lot of openly married people looking for affairs with or without the same sex, voyeurs, group sex, bestiality, people who defecate on each other, people who get off inflicting and receiving pain, etc. And these are the straight people. This proposal is ridiculous as the people who’d be classified as Gay would already be in History books for their accomplishments. How sad if you are now"
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 06, 2006
"bkfk: I checked out Craigs list, and??? I never said there weren't depraved individuals out there, and most of these Ads weren't looking for relationships, rather encounters. You can find Classified Ads everywhere straight, gay, whatever. In fact you can look on the Internet and easily find Sites with graphic video's, chat rooms, cyber sex areas, etc. You think it's better for a straight person to have a sexual encounter with a hooker who's had sometimes unprotected sex with 30 other"
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 06, 2006
"So what contributions does Sheila have in mind - facilitating the unprecedented spread of AIDS -- or making HIV a household word."
-> Posted by sally / May 05, 2006
"Jesse, you say you do not have many gay friends and are not an expert on this subject. What a miricle. I know you are a researcher. Go to www.craigslist.org and then look around and click on men seeking men in the relationship area. That should pretty much demonstrate to you where gays are at. Of course not all, but generally."
-> Posted by bkfk / May 05, 2006
"Currently one of California's highest-profile politicians, state Sen. Sheila James Kuehl played Zelda Gilroy on TV's "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis," which ran from 1959 to 1963. A Democrat, she's the first openly gay person to have been elected to the California Legislature, and the first woman named president pro tempore of the state Assembly."
-> Posted by inboxnews / May 05, 2006
"(cont) As for recruitment, I don’t know many Gay people, but the ones I know have never tried to recruit me, nor anyone else. I’m sure there are perverted Gay’s, just as well as there are perverted straight people though. I don’t think Gays should be put in a history book for being Homo, but should be there like everyone else for their historical accomplishments without mentioning their sexual orientation as it has no historical relevance."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 05, 2006
"Svvd: Gay people can have Orgasms, and for that matter you don’t even need a partner to reach an Orgasm. And your definition of Sex could just as well apply to a Gay person. As for procurement…There are couples that don’t or can’t have children, and there are couples who have a lot of children. There are a lot of out of wedlock pregnancies, and a lot of children put up for Adoption. Men straight or Gay can’t have children to begin with. Lesbian women can get impregnated if they want."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 05, 2006
"Jesse, I do not know if u took exception to what I said or not.

Orgasisms. If you cannot procreate maybe you have no business having orgasisms. Do something else with your energy, call it abstinance, monkism or whatever. Sex is for people that want to help uninbodied consciousnesses get a body to enjoy and learn from physical existance. I think a lot of people have been recruited while young who otherwise would have been straight. Who knows for sure."
-> Posted by svvd / May 05, 2006
"CDC: Right suppress their homosexuality, or practice abstinence. Uh I think that being homo is more than sexual. No harm in denying right, I mean prisons are full of child molesters who weren't "gay". Priests in churches that weren't "gay". How many people get married and abuse their child but aren’t “gay. How many violent crimes against Gay people by people who themselves repress their "gay" inclinations."
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 05, 2006
"Yet another waste of money spent on propaganda. How do these idiots keep returning to Sacramento?"
-> Posted by -keith in silicon valley / May 04, 2006
"Way to go Sheila!!! How about Porn movies in the classroom, or teach the Kaum Sutra manual!

Most people in History HID it if they were Gay, so wouldn't that be guessing???

What you need to do is tie it in to "undocumented" workers Sheila, and all the fools will back it.

Steve, Ex-gays??? Preventable and treatable? You teach in your classroom that it's curable? I have never met a person who said I used to be Gay. Are you saying it’s a disease? I thought people were born that way?"
-> Posted by jesse of sacramento / May 04, 2006
"I was born & raised in SF. I have a pretty liberal attitude but, check out the, men seeking men, section of craigslist.com in any city to get an idea of what the homosexual lifestyle is really about. Its pretty pathetic and I would not wish it on anyone. Check it out.

When I was a kid I could not go to a public bathroom without being accosted by a fruiter. Have things changed? I do not think so.
They cannot breed they have tol recruit."
-> Posted by vfdv / May 04, 2006
"You take a young impressionable child who is going through the insecurity of becoming a sexual being and expose him to the OPTIONS, you will of course raise the percentage of homosexuals. Geez, I mean, its ok to be gay but, is it really preferable? Would'nt it be better if everyone was capable of procreating, and making the species better, and if a person was gay, is the posibility of abstinance an option, after all, procreation is what it is all about right?"
-> Posted by cdc / May 04, 2006
"Now folks.. understand something about these people. It cost's the taxpayer a minimum of $15,000.00 to put a bill on the adgenda.Those are the actual costs. So now start adding up all the stupid bills these asses in Sacramento submit as personal adgendas such as gun control, ammo control, ferret control, toilet paper color control etc. and the next time you send in your tax payment, feel good about it!"
-> Posted by steve / May 04, 2006
"So, how are textbooks going to be different? Most high schoolers think their History textbooks are pretty gay.right now. Why not try something really different in textbooks and try sharing a little history in them?"
-> Posted by Arnoldstein'sRINO / May 04, 2006
"Rich: Please really read the below comments. None of them are hateful. They are communicating concern that history does not need to be taught in regards to the historian's sexual behaviour. What our children would really remember is the sexual behaviour not the historical contribution. Get real. This is another attempt to manipulate the minds of the next voting generation."
-> Posted by Marie / May 04, 2006
"I'm not sure what's more disturbing, this bill, or the majority of hateful comments that follow. We should be capable of criticizing the actions of our govenment in a well-reasoned manner."
-> Posted by Rich / May 04, 2006
"Obviously these folks don't have enough to do down town! I agree, ship Sheila Kuehl, not for her sexual orientation, which I could give a crap about, however for her stupidness! Talk about a waste of tax papers money! It is the voters that elect these fools.. we get what we get when we don't research these people!"
-> Posted by Sassy / May 04, 2006
"This bill passed the democrat controlled committee yesterday it goes to the democrat controlled senate now please write to the gov to veto this bill if it gets to him"
-> Posted by Jerry / May 04, 2006
"When discussing the contributions of people in history, sexual orientation would never come up because it is irrelevant. Do we know or care if George Washington was straight or not?"
-> Posted by Lee Spradling / May 04, 2006
"I'd say it's time to replace State Sen. Sheila Kuehl.
Homosexuality is not a matter of history - it's sin."
-> Posted by Albert / May 03, 2006
"Sheila Kuehl is a card-carrying lesbian out to push her agenda on our children. Many years ago, she was a child actress who played Zelda Gilroy on the Dobie Gillis show. I know that in my classroom, I have always taught that homosexuality is both preventable and treatable, and I always will teach that. I've read too much by ex-gays to teach anything different."
-> Posted by Steve / May 03, 2006
"As a high school history teacher, I do not believe that I should have to include the sex lives of the historical figures I teach about. If I am forced to by this whacked bill, then should I teach about President Kennedy's penchant for blondes singing him "Happy Birthday?" How about a textbook addendum entitled, "Favorite sexual positions of American Presidents and their wives, significant others, and/or farm animals...""
-> Posted by Steve / May 03, 2006
"....And has anyone else noticed that this sort of stupid initiative is always put forth by a Democrat. I didn't even have to read the article to know that a ridiculous Democrat would come up with this."
-> Posted by Bob, Sacramento / May 03, 2006
"Why on earth does this state keep electing these fools. Why do these homosexuals insist on being defined by what they do in their bedrooms. I dont give a crap who is gay or who isn't. Sexuality is irrelevant to history."
-> Posted by Bob, Sacramento / May 03, 2006
"When it can be proved definitively that only being gay gives an individual explicit wisdom or ability for a notable accomplishment; then and only then should the gender bender issue be noted."
-> Posted by William / May 03, 2006
"State Sen. Sheila Kuehl must be queer. I really wish these whatever they are would go away. What in the hell is going on in Sacramento? Have they all lost their minds. I don't want my kids exposed to this crap. Let's bring prayer back to schools FIRST!"
-> Posted by steve / May 03, 2006
"Oh, are we going to call out the contributions of the blind, disabled, left handers, pre-mature balding, bad breath,
deaf. I'm sure they have made some contributions. Oh, more books, I forgot. When I was in school books never said, "Pesident Washington, known to be a straight white guy", crossed the Patomac.

Time to pack"
-> Posted by Ken (Roseville) / May 03, 2006
"Is this really the most pressing issue currently under the big liberal dome????

Please let us know how many letters you actually received from those you represent who are calling for this. You want to sell more school books for $190 each and then complain that you need to raise tuition. This is funny.

You should, like others downtown be ashamed of yourself. Do something contructive or leave. No one respects your bunch. You are useless."
-> Posted by Ken (Roseville) / May 03, 2006
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